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Steven Utley Member |
posted August 24, 2002 02:51 PM
 
This month, I have been officially Laid Up with lower-back problems, and there's nothing like excruciating pain to make a fellow forget all about comic books, politics, sex, and what-have-you. Lumbar willing, I'll soon be back in the swing of things. In the meantime, would someone enlighten me on the status of the "lost" WONDER WOMAN ANNUAL? Also, whose idea was it to italicize the DC message boards? IP: Logged |
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greene Member |
posted August 27, 2002 12:03 AM
Hate to hear you've been suffering, Steve. I'd prescribe some soothing sessions with the jazz sounds of small-group Ellington, or perhaps the John Kirby sextet. No rambunctious dixieland, which is hard on the old bones. And, you might find some vintage comedy on the VCR will temporarily dissipate physical woes. Speaking of which, I just learned recently that one of Raymond Griffith's features I thought lost, "You'd Be Surprised" (1926-Paramount), is actually still surviving. Griffith played a light-hearted coroner who solves a murder, according to the synopsis. Anyway, get well soon! I think it's safe to collectively say we all enjoy your postings around here. Even the weird gorilla stuff. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted August 27, 2002 04:07 PM
Thanks, greene. I am making do with listening matter by the likes of Ellington, Claude Thornhill, and Stan Getz, lightly laced with Mozart and Bach, and reading pulp fiction by such luminaries as Leigh Brackett, C.L. Moore, Stanley G. Weinbaum, Edmond Hamilton, and John Taine. I'll eventually get back around to Miss Jane Austen and His Nabokovness, of course, but for now, in the immortal words of Ray Palmer (the science-fiction personage, not The Atom), "Gimme bang-bang." IP: Logged |
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James Friel Member |
posted August 27, 2002 04:42 PM
If you're looking for something with lots of (nautical) bang-bang and elements of Jane Austenness blended into a semaless whole, let me rcommend the twenty Aubrey-Maturin novels by Patrick O'Brian. IP: Logged |
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Old Dude Member |
posted August 28, 2002 12:13 AM
Steve! I'm sorry to hear that about your back. Now I feel guilty! I was just over on the War That Time Forgot thread taking cheap shots at you. My back used to do bad things on a regular basis, so I know it's no fun. My problems never lasted longer than a few days, though (my record was five days of inaction), so your month of incapacity is way beyond my ken. I once spent a month on bed with pneumonia. If I moved, I started coughing, so I stayed put and caught up on my reading. I had a huge biography of George C. Marshall that I'd never had a large enough block of time to read, so I was finally able to tackle it. Hope you're back at it soon, pal. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 01, 2002 02:03 AM
(Further Lack of) Progress Report I am still officially Laid Up. This past Thursday, the doctor suggested that I inform family, friends, and employer in no uncertain terms that surgery looms in my future. Even to my untrained eye, it was clear from the MRIs of my lower vertebrae that my lumber are, so to speak, on their last legs. By this time next month, I shall probably be held together, like the Frankenstein Monster, with screws and scar tissue. On the plus side, I am getting a lot of reading done, my copies of the new ALL-STAR and SPIRIT ARCHIVES ought to get here before I go under the knife, and I've a new story online at http://www.revolutionsf.com/article/1396.html IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 01, 2002 02:05 AM
That should be "lumbar," not "lumber." My spine only feels as though it were made of wood. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 05, 2002 08:36 AM
I have it on excellent authority that DC has at last located the 80-page WOMAN WOMAN ANNUAL that went missing in the 1960s. It will be issued on or about this December 26th. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 05, 2002 08:37 AM
WONDER WOMAN, not WOMAN WOMAN, who of course was the partner of MAN MAN. IP: Logged |
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datalore Member |
posted September 05, 2002 08:57 AM
Steven, sorry to hear of your troubles (but good that you are able to take advantage and read!) We'll all send positive thoughts your way... My hope is to see more collections at some point too...it was those overstuffed books of the 1970s that helped get me into comics, and I think they could do nothing but help the industry now... I always thought they could take the Digests and just reprint those at FULL SIZE (well, okay, I'd rather see them use the original art instead of the "smushed" stuff they used...) I'd also love to see at least SOME of those oversized LCEs appear as well, as well as those 1970s DC Spectaculars (I've STILL been unable to ever find the Jonah Hex one...) IP: Logged |
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Coleo Member |
posted September 05, 2002 09:02 AM
quote: The cover reminded me of the classic painted cover of that early Superman Limited Collector's Edition, which had been a painting on the wall of the DC offices since the 40's. I didn't get the tabloid when it came out, but that image stayed with me until I finally picked up a copy about three years ago. I still love the painting, (heck, I framed the book and hung it on the wall in my office) but I can't help noticing how much Superman looks like Ronald Reagan, which creeps me out. Cole IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 05, 2002 02:27 PM
Thanks for the positive thoughts, datalore. Tomorrow I submit to another epidural steroid injection ("epidural" is medicalese for "not as much fun as it sounds"), but today I am reading H. Rider Haggard's CLEOPATRA and communing with the cats. At least until the advent of the Marvel Masterwork and the DC Archive Edition, which is to say, prior to the late 1980s, I thought of the 1970s as a sort of Golden Age of Golden Age Comics Reprints. They rather pale now that I have shelves full of durable, presentable comic-book [i]books[/b], a format I longed for even before I knew that I longed it. Nevertheless, during the '70s, DC's 100-pagers were the best thing to be got for four bits, and also welcome were the tabloid Collector's Editions, the occasional hardcover or trade edition (e.g., SUPERMAN FROM THE '30s TO THE '70s and the Fireside collections), and even those damned digests (which I deplored for reducing splash panels to the size of postage stamps). Coleo, regarding Superman's resemblance to Ronald Reagan, I recall from somewhere that along about 1940 Reagan's physique was voted (by whom, I know not) Most Nearly Perfect, Adult Male Division, and I have a mental image of an accompanying footgraph of the Gipper posing in bathing trunks. Regarding reading generally, this week the pile of books at my bedside has included Lisa Tuttle's new story collection, GHOSTS & OTHER LOVERS, which she sent to help me while away the time, and STAR MAKER, the vastest of Olaf Stapledon's several ultra-super-duper-macrocosmic canvases, compared with which E.E. "Doc" Smith's and Edmond "World Wrecker" Hamilton's starfaring epics were backyard affairs and Lisa's spooky tales are subatomic. Yet, regardless of scale, they are about the same thing, the thing all fiction is about. Faulkner described it as "the heart in conflict with itself," but for the moment I prefer my own formulation -- "people trying to be happy" -- which is, you must admit, an improvement over my previous Theory of Literature: "A story must be about something." These new pain-killers I'm on are wonderful. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 08, 2002 03:33 AM
I now have it on excellent authority that the WONDER WOMAN ANNUAL due out in December will comprise: * WONDER WOMAN # 28 (March-April 1948) * WONDER WOMAN # 105 (April 1959) * WONDER WOMAN # 108 (August 1959) * WONDER WOMAN # 144 (February 1964) The party who selected these stories is a genius. IP: Logged |
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daytripper Member |
posted September 08, 2002 06:34 AM
The Wonder Woman annual will be an excellent time to see if I actually like the H.G. Peter artwork. In the past, when I've glanced through WW back issues, I ignore his (her?) art as being too dark, but this time I'll take my time and see how I like it. The Andru/Esposito art I know I'll like. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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grimmbeau Member |
posted September 08, 2002 11:36 PM
Weird -- I feel like I have at least two of these stories. I know I have a 100-page Super-Spectacular with "Villainy, Inc." in it. Has "Wanted -- Wonder Woman" been reprinted anywhere? The "Revolt of Wonder Woman" is also familiar, but I may just know the title. Rob IP: Logged |
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Dave the Wonder Boy Member |
posted September 15, 2002 10:02 AM
I pretty much pick up the 80-pagers and 100-pages on an as-detected basis, and I'm sure I've missed many. I don't notice that they come out on any kind of regular schedule. Even if they only come out like, say, twice or four times a year, it would benefit DC's sales if they'd have a half-page or third-of-page ad crammed in somewhere telling you when the next giant reprint issue was coming out. Does anyone know of a list showing all the 80 page/100 page facsimile reprint editions over the last few years, or when they began? Some of my favorites: FLASH ANNUAL # 1 (a great collection of the early infantino stories, with a checklist of all the Flash appraeances up until 1963, when the original ANNUAL 1 was published. It has credits for all the uncredited stories !) WELCOME BACK TO HOUSE OF MYSTERY (a great framing sequence tribute to the 70's DC mystery titles, and some of the best stories by Adams, Wrightson, Aparo, Wood, and others. I'd like to see additional HOUSE OF MYSTERY reprint giants.) LOVE STORIES ( reprinting DC 100-PAGE SUPER SPECTACULAR # 5, one of the pricier and harder to find 100-page issues. Fun stuff, wonderfully nostalgic 70's art and pop-culture by Win Mortimer, Vince Colletta, Ric Estrada, Wally Wood, Mort Drucker, Mike Sekowsky and others. ) IP: Logged |
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quincyjb Member |
posted September 15, 2002 11:59 AM
These are my favorites so far: WELCOME BACK TO THE HOUSE OF MYSTERY -- Wonderful collection of artists, and reprints from a genre that DC has pretty much abandoned since the mid 1980s. SECRET ORIGINS and (80 PAGE GIANT #8 ?) MORE SECRET ORIGINS -- For years the ads in old DC comics had me longing for copies of these, but the back issue price tags were just too, too high. Buying high quality reprints of these for six or seven bucks each was a dream come true. GREEN LANTERN ANNUAL #1 -- A fake retro annual. GL has always been one of DC's big five superheroes (in my mind, anyway) and it seemed odd that neither he nor Wonder Woman had 80 pagers in the sixties. I enjoyed the stories collected here, and it was worth buying despite the fact that the first two archives render it redundant. IP: Logged |
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casselmm47 Member |
posted September 15, 2002 12:54 PM
quote: I'm sure there was a list of them somewhere back along this thread, but I might be thinking of another thread long since departed into the mists... here's what I remember... Replicas: Facsimilies: Cass IP: Logged |
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casselmm47 Member |
posted September 15, 2002 09:00 PM
My top few choices of what I'd like to see in the near future: Replica Editions of... Facsimile Editions of... Cass IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 25, 2002 03:40 PM
quote: I got the first of what I had been led to expect would be four issues. Did the other three ever appear? IP: Logged |
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quincyjb Member |
posted September 25, 2002 05:11 PM
To the best of my knowledge, "Welcome Back to the House of Mystery" was a one shot. I never saw any issues except for the first. IP: Logged |
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Old Dude Member |
posted September 26, 2002 12:28 AM
quote: I twas reprinted in one of the 100-page issues in the early '70s. I have it at home, but I don't remember the issue number. I still have the beat up, coverless copy of the original that I bought as a kid. I have issues 108 and 110. In 108, WW is still wearing the heeless sandals; in 110 she has the new high heels she wore throughout the '60s and '70s. Wasn't #109 the retold origin of WW? That always seemed to me to be a logical place to begin the Silver Age for WW. Either that, or when Andru & Esposito took over the art chores. IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted September 28, 2002 04:23 AM
Here is a link to an image of the WONDER WONDER ANNUAL cover: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0209/17/WWLostAnnual.htm IP: Logged |
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Steven Utley Member |
posted October 23, 2002 01:53 PM
By way of nudging this thread back from the brink of oblivion, I note that 2003 will kick off with a replica of an 80-page SUPERBOY & THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES ANNUAL published during the late 1960s. Here's hoping that we'll also get that long-lost QUALITY COMICS ANNUAL next year, and perhaps even some DC FUNNY FOLKS. IP: Logged |
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greene Member |
posted October 23, 2002 02:44 PM
An 80-page Superboy-Legion edition sounds okay with me, although I think I would have preferred seeing it devoted to Superboy's Smallville escapades. Especially since the archive edition seems to be in limbo. Of course, I think those earliest "More Fun" Superboy stories (aren't some of them only four pages each?) are probably quite a different animal from the familiar silver-age incarnation we all know. IP: Logged |
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