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casselmm47 Member	posted January 16, 2002 06:52 PM quote: Originally posted by India Ink: Of late I've been going over some of the Super-Specs for the "Superman in the 70s" thread (over on the Superman forum). It's interesting to note that the Specs began at issue 4 (DC-4)--an all Mystery collection with a Wrightson cover, then there was the Love Stories collection that was re-released recently (I really loved that comic, made me regret that I was too embarassed to buy any romance comics back in the seventies), then came the "World' Greatest Super-Heroes" collection (DC-6) with a wrap-around Neal Adams cover (spotlighting both JSA and JLA members). I think this last is a likely choice for any future Super-Specs, although the Mystery collection would also be a good choice. In fact all the wrap-around Adams covers would make for good re-releases. Although, in actual fact I liked the non-wrap-around covers--the ones that had a cover gallery on the back showing covers of some of the comics reprinted in the given edition. I already mentioned one Flash Super-Spec, but there was another one I also liked a lot (not part of the regular Flash run, and I don't have the DC- issue number at hand right now), which had a big long GA Flash story in it (from All-Flash Quarterly), with a beautiful Flash splash page that showed the Speedster on the cover of a magazine, rendered in black & white and looking very realistic in contrast to the cartoon-style artwork of the story. As a proud owner of the 'Weird Mystery' Super-Spec (picked it up in decent shape last year for a whopping 50 cents ), I'd love to see that one rereleased, if for no other reason but to have that lovely Wrightson back cover (identical to the front except for trade dress) to display. Those wraparound Adams covers would make great posters (especially Superman 252). Perhaps future Replica Editions could come packaged with separate posters for display. Cass IP: Logged
India Ink Member	posted January 16, 2002 08:59 PM Since they usually put the UPC on the back cover that could mar the Adams wrap-arounds--perhaps a fold out cover would solve the problem. IP: Logged
Steven Utley Member	posted January 18, 2002 02:26 PM During the '60s, I was consumed with curiosity about DC's '40s characters. The annual Justice League/Justice Society team-ups and occasional All-Flash reprints in 80-pagers merely whetted my appetite. When Marvel began reprinting old Captain America, Human Torch, and Sub-Mariner stories in Fantasy Masterpieces, DC's failure to follow suit particularly tormented me. Little did I know that relief was only a few years away, that, whatever else they might be, the '70s would be a (dare I use the phrase?) Golden Age of Golden Age Reprints. Well, now DC can make it up to my younger self -- and to my adult self who has never got over the lack of a second volume of The Greatest Golden Age Stories Ever Told. (In this life, we proceed from torment to torment.) Lemme have my "lost" DC Yesteryears 80-pager! Gimme Alex Toth's Green Lantern, Lee Elias' Flash, Sheldon Moldoff's Hawkman, Jimmy Thompson's Robotman, Simon and Kirby's Sandman! Wannit wannit wannit! IP: Logged
Bilbo Member	posted January 18, 2002 04:03 PM I wasn't around the first time DC published most of the 80- and 100-Page Giants they've been reprinting but I'm a complete fan of this stuff! This is COMICS! Really, there's an absolute charm about them that can't be found anywhere else in mainstream comics. I honestly hope DC ends up reprinting all of them and keep on creating some new ones too. BTW, could anyone post here some sort of checklist of the ones that DC has already reprinted in the last few years. I'm not sure if I already have all that came out. Thanks! IP: Logged
Steven Utley Member	posted January 18, 2002 06:57 PM Bilbo, they are: Replica editions SUPERMAN: The Greatest Superman Stories Ever Told BATMAN: 1,001 Secrets of Batman and Robin SECRET ORIGINS MORE SECRET ORIGINS FLASH SGT. ROCK'S PRIZE BATTLE TALES DC 100-PAGE SUPER-SPECTACULAR: LOVE STORIES "lost" editions GREEN LANTERN THE GREEN ARROW, by Jack Kirby THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD TEEN TITANS JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA (100-Page Super-Spectacular) JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA (100-Page Super-Spectacular) Hope that helps. Welcome to the DC message boards. IP: Logged
casselmm47 Member	posted January 18, 2002 06:58 PM quote: Originally posted by Bilbo: BTW, could anyone post here some sort of checklist of the ones that DC has already reprinted in the last few years. I'm not sure if I already have all that came out. Thanks! Lemme start up, the list, no doubt incomplete... This first list are straight reprints of preexisting issues: Secret Origins 80PG More Secret Origins 80PG Batman Annual 80PG Superman Annual 80PG Sgt Rock Prize Battle Tales 80PG Flash Annual 80PG Love Stories 100PSS The following are contemporary facsimiles of 'what would've been'... Teen Titans Annual 80PG Green Lantern Annual 80PG Brave and the Bold Annual 80PG Justice League of America 100PSS Justice Society of America 100PSS Green Arrow by Jack Kirby (sorta... it was only 72 pages, but I note it here in the spirit of the rest of these issues) What did I miss? Cass IP: Logged
casselmm47 Member	posted January 18, 2002 07:00 PM "Did I miss any?" Well... guess not, if Steve says so.... Cass IP: Logged
Bilbo Member	posted January 19, 2002 07:09 AM Thanks everybody! Guess that means I'm only missing Superman, Titans and Justice League giants. Do you know if these are available through diamond's star system? IP: Logged
casselmm47 Member	posted January 19, 2002 03:59 PM I think some or most of the reissued 80/100Pagers are availaable through their (Diamonds) DC backlist section. Cass IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted January 19, 2002 04:04 PM I'm also inclined to think the next "lost" Annual will be Wonder Woman. Some time, it would be cool to see a "lost" Freedom Fighters Annual featuring all Quality reprints of the various members. As for reprints, the second issues of the Superman and Batman Annuals were as good as the first. And all the 100-Pagers that were mentioned above are wonderful--I still have mine, so I don't really care whether DC does 'em again, but if they do, a bunch of folks are in for a treat. IP: Logged
erdmann Member	posted January 20, 2002 12:30 AM I think it's time for a 100-Page Super-Spectacular 100th issue of "Sugar and Spike." IP: Logged
Steven Utley Member	posted January 20, 2002 03:10 AM Thinking back over this thread's several pages, I am struck (again) (ouch) by the sheer volume and variety of material DC has in its files -- and the paucity of what we have in hand. Three or four "lost" or replicated 80- and 100-pagers a year only whets the appetite for an 80- or 100-pager every month. Were it actually to happen, I'd certainly give serious thought to getting back into the comic-book-buying habit. Ah, patience is a virtue, all things come to he who waits, yadda yadda yadda. I defer enough gratification in other areas of my life on a daily basis, and comic books almost by definition are about instant gratification. Gimme. Wannit. I have heard it argued that we keep listening to our favorite music in an effort to re-experience the surprise and pleasure we felt the first time we heard it. Perhaps it is the same with favorite comics, favorite movies, favorite anything. So, anyway: here's to that "lost" Wonder Woman Annual which we had damn well better get this year, and to the great Superman, Batman, and Flash 80-pagers soon ahem I said soon to be replicated (right?), and to Aquaman by Ramona Fradon a la The Green Arrow by Jack Kirby. And here's also to (let's call it) Jack Kirby's House of Secrets, and an All-Star Western Annual, a Strange Adventures, a DC Funny Folks, a Danger Trail, and "lost" issues of DC Special devoted to Alex Toth, Gil Kane, Murphy Anderson, and whatever else I may need to tide me over between DC Archives. Gimme. Wannit. IP: Logged
India Ink Member	posted January 22, 2002 08:34 PM We need the return of DC Special. DC Special actually helped launch a lot of series. Like "Wanted," or howabout those Green Lantern reprints which helped to bring back the Green Lantern title with Mike Grell on pencils. IP: Logged
daytripper Member	posted January 23, 2002 07:24 PM I wish that DC would issue "Cancelled Comics Cavalcade" in a color edition. Back around 1978 or so, at the time of the so-called DC Implosion, DC put together copies of various titles that had not been printed because of cancellation, and, for copyright purposes, issued them in two volumes (black and white) of the above title. I know that some of the material in these was printed in regular comics later on, but what a kick it would be so see these stories collected as they were back when, except in color this time. Either that, or someone with a copy could send me a xerox copy of it. I'll pay copying and postage! IP: Logged
NecessaryImpurity Member	posted January 23, 2002 07:51 PM Back in the late 60s and early 70s, DC published a number of "lost" Golden Age tales; stories that were 20 years old at the time. We are coming up on 25 years since the Implosion. It would be nice to see the "lost" 1970s stories. But don't hold your breath. IP: Logged
Steven Utley Member	posted January 24, 2002 08:44 AM The impure one's mention of the "lost" 1940s stories published in the '70s inspires me to make a case for the "lost" 80-page collection of those very tales. It should have been published during the '60s, when all of us funny-book fans were just consumed with curiosity about What Had Been. If memory serves, there were, besides the Dr. Mid-Nite and Black Canary tales recently reprinted in Justice Society 100-Page Super-Spectacular and The Black Canary Archives, two or three Flash, a couple of Wonder Woman, and one each of Green Lantern and Atom stories. Quite enough, certainly. IP: Logged
datalore Member	posted January 24, 2002 08:48 AM Being a child raised on comics in the 1970s... ...I remember those "lost golden age" stories...AND the rumors of the Cancelled Comic Cavalcades... ...and would love to see both of these presents for all us fans... ...and more "lost" Giants, and reprints of the ones NOT reprinted (Superboy 147 comes to mind...along with some of the over-sized Superman and Batman issues...) IP: Logged
Wayne1776 Member	posted January 24, 2002 02:28 PM I am with Steve U. A Wonder Woman 100 Page Super-Spectular is in order this year. I also cast my vote for the next WW Archive. This is also the 40th (OMG!) anniversary of The Metal Men. Although, I read them as they were published in the 60s, I don't have them anymore. I do have the Digest and all of the "Hunted" storyline issues of the Metal Men, but I would like to see the "Showcase" issues presented in one package. That would be about 100 pages, of just story, however. How about it, DC a $9.95 (or cheaper) TPB of The Metal Men. I will buy two I promise. I will buy two of the Wonder Woman 100 pager too, I promise. IP: Logged
casselmm47 Member	posted January 24, 2002 05:18 PM Along with the BC and Mid-Nite materials Mr. Utley mentioned above, there was the serialized Seven Soldiers of Victory story that ran in Adventure Comics in '73 and '74. Put together in one place, this would make for a good 'filler' for a 'Lost' 80 or 100 Pager. Cass IP: Logged
Silver Age Adam Member	posted January 24, 2002 08:23 PM quote: Originally posted by Steven Utley: ...I have heard it argued that we keep listening to our favorite music in an effort to re-experience the surprise and pleasure we felt the first time we heard it. Perhaps it is the same with favorite comics... I've got to chime in here. When I was in grade school I read DC comics, then in JR. High I switched to Marvel and stayed through the Frank Miller revolution. After college all those great indies were coming out and Alan Moore's Swamp Thing was hitting the stores and I was devouring those. So I've been away from DC since Super Friends was on TV! Now I've got a son, age 6, and I'm reading him the DC Silver Age books. What a pleasant nostalgia it is! I'm finding reprints of books I haven't seen for 30 years and reading them to my son. The same innocent delight is right there! Bob Kane's Batman, the Silver Age Flash, the Silver Age Metal Men, Silver Age Green Lantern, those great 50's Superman comics!! It's very special to me to find my old pals in print still. And quite a treat to share them. I'm so glad the 80 page and 100 page giants are being so beautifully reprinted! IP: Logged
Steven Utley Member	posted January 30, 2002 12:28 PM Here is a link to Shazamgrrl's entertaining thread about comic-book stories that left you tapping the side of your head with the heel of your hand: http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/011375.html Anyone care to make suggestions for an 80- or 100-page collection of What-the-F**k stories? IP: Logged
Steven Utley Member	posted January 31, 2002 04:56 PM NecessaryImpunity and I wrote earlier of 1940s stories that hadn't seen print until the late '60s and '70s, and I briefly made the case for a "lost" 80-page collection of those tales that should have been published during the '60s, when all of us funny-book fans were just consumed with curiosity about What Had Been. The stories in question -- considerably more of them than would fit into an 80- or even a 100-pager, so, what the hey, let's have a whole trade paperback! -- are: The Black Canary, "Special Delivery Death," DC SPECIAL # 3 (June 1969), reprinted in THE BLACK CANARY ARCHIVES (2000) Wonder Woman, "The Cheetah's Thought Prisoners," DC SPECIAL # 3 (June 1969) The Black Canary, "Television Told the Tale," ADVENTURE COMICS # 399 (November 1970), reprinted in THE BLACK CANARY ARCHIVES The Flash, "Journey Into Danger," THE FLASH # 205 (May 1971) Wildcat, "Crime Wore a Costume," DC 100-PAGE SUPER SPECTACULAR # 6 (month? 1971) Wonder Woman, "The Stormy Menace of Goblin's Head Rock," WONDER WOMAN # 196 (month? 1971) The Atom, "Danger in the Totem's Eye," BATMAN # 238 (January 1972) Green Lantern, "Menace of the Marching Toys," GREEN LANTERN # 88 (March 1972) Dr. Mid-Nite, "The Sight-Stealers," ADVENTURE COMICS # 418 (April 1972), reprinted in JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA 100-PAGE SUPER SPECTACULAR (July 2000) The Flash, "The Tale of Three Tokens," THE FLASH # 214 (April 1972) Wonder Woman, "Racketeer's Bait," AMAZING WORLD OF DC # 2 (September 1974) Seven Soldiers of Victory, "The Land of Magic," ADVENTURE COMICS #s 438-443 (April 1975-February 1976) IP: Logged
James Friel Member	posted February 01, 2002 07:28 PM If DC hasn't yet decided that a Spectre Archives series should be done soon, then perhaps a "lost" 1970 Spectre Annual featuring both 1940s and 1960s material (and with single stories included of other DC supernatural characters--Dr.Fate, Phantom Stranger, Zatara, Ibis, Sargon, et al.) might help them decide. IP: Logged
Cave Carson Member	posted February 01, 2002 10:24 PM I'd like to see a MANHUNTER FROM MARS special, consisting of: JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #71 "And So My World Ends" (J'onn J'onzz returns to Mars and resigns from the JLA.) ADVENTURE COMICS #449-451 (MM has three solo stories in the back of these with nice Nasser art.) WORLD'S FINEST #245 (The climax to the ADVENTURE stories.) Throw in the story from HOUSE OF MYSTERY # 143 and perhaps the first J'onn story from DETECTIVE and you have a nice little special! ------------------ "With the death of his Earth identity, detective John Jones, the MANHUNTER FROM MARS has dedicated his life to the destruction of the infamous IDOL-HEAD OF DIABOLU! But until then, with each full moon, he is faced with another evil menace released from it, as in the bizarre case of...THE GIANT-MAKER" --House of Mystery #143, June 1964 IP: Logged
Old Dude Member	posted February 01, 2002 11:32 PM [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cave Carson: [B]ADVENTURE COMICS #449-451 (MM has three solo stories in the back of these with nice Nasser art.) I had these briefly when they first came out. The art was beautiful, but I don't remember the stories at all. I didn't even remember that they were in Adventure Comics. Now that I know, I'll look them up at my next convention. IP: Logged

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